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From Barbell to Ecosystem: Rethinking Member Engagement and Advice in Super with Duncan McPherson
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June 16, 2026

From Barbell to Ecosystem: Rethinking Member Engagement and Advice in Super with Duncan McPherson

#29. Guest Duncan McPherson, founder of Borromean Consulting and former Link Advice CEO, joins Sarah and Neil to dig into the evolving intersection of advice and superannuation delivery. The discussion challenges the old idea that there’s a single operating model for advice within funds, arguing instead that the critical issue is how and where each fund draws the line between in-house and external capabilities—a threshold that's now shifting under regulatory, commercial, and technological pressu
Supercharged Conversations: Unpacking the Future Fund Admin Forum 2026
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June 4, 2026

Supercharged Conversations: Unpacking the Future Fund Admin Forum 2026

#28. Join Sarah and Neil as they recap from day two at the Future Fund Admin 2026 forum in Sydney. This episode argues that super funds can’t achieve real member experience improvements by relying only on surface-level changes—like updated communication—without fixing the underlying systems and rules that shape every customer interaction. Through firsthand stories and honest discussion, the hosts show why complexity and legacy processes frustrate members and staff alike, and why personalisation
Day One Highlights from the IBRC Future Fund Admin Conference
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June 3, 2026

Day One Highlights from the IBRC Future Fund Admin Conference

#27. Join Sarah and Neil as they recap from day one at the Future Fund Admin 2026 forum in Sydney. This episode grapples with whether Australia’s superannuation industry will really consolidate to just a handful of mega funds—and what that could mean for members, small funds, and fund administrators caught between regulatory expectations and practical realities. Sarah and Neil unpack how the growing focus on members’ real experiences is colliding with operational constraints, regulatory change,
Industry-Platform Partnerships, AI in Member Comms, APRA Cautions, and Telstra Super’s Big Merger
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May 19, 2026

Industry-Platform Partnerships, AI in Member Comms, APRA Cautions, and Telstra Super’s Big Merger

#26. Co-hosts Neil Benson and Sarah Penn break down the latest superannuation shake-ups and tech trends. Industry super funds are now experiencing net outflows to retail funds, with $4.3 billion switching over two years. Sarah Penn questions whether proposed partnerships between industry funds and retail platforms actually benefit members, suggesting they may simply repackage underused direct investment models. Australians are warming up again to financial advice, with both hosts championing the
Superannuation Reforms: Switching Delays, Lead Generation, and Compensation Challenges
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May 11, 2026

Superannuation Reforms: Switching Delays, Lead Generation, and Compensation Challenges

#25. Should retirees be forced to take a pension? Why are Treasury’s latest consultation papers sending shockwaves through the super industry? We break it down for you in this episode. 1. Enhancing Member Protections in the Super System The definition of a platform trustee — and why it matters (02:08) Increased penalties for misconduct: who really ends up paying? (05:05) Proposed waiting periods for super fund switching: policy fail or protection? (06:19) How compensation proposals could change
Super Advertising Bans to Employees, Advisor Education Reforms, and the Unintended Consequences of the Performance Test
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April 22, 2026

Super Advertising Bans to Employees, Advisor Education Reforms, and the Unintended Consequences of the Performance Test

#24. On this episode of That Super Show, co-hosts Neil Benson and Sarah Penn break down the Treasury’s proposed ban on super fund advertising during onboarding, the shakeup in advisor education requirements, and dig into why APRA and the ATO are getting twitchy about payday super implementation (spoiler: small business, we see you…). Plus, are performance tests quietly killing investment innovation in Australia? RESOURCES Superannuation advertising ban consultation launches - employers can only

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1-minute Interview Questions
Nov. 17, 2025

1-minute Interview Questions

If you're attending a superannuation event where Neil and Sarah are recording short interviews for That Super Show, here's a list of potential topics and questions to help get the conversation going.Strategy and ReformWhat reform has created t…

About the Hosts

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Neil Benson

Global Chief Product Officer at ChandlerCX

At Chander, I lead product strategy as we continue to build AI-driven automation into the ChandlerCX customer communications platform. In February 2026, my startup, Novagentic was acquired by ChandlerCX, where I now serve as global chief product officer.

Organisations in regulated industries – such as financial services, public sector, healthcare and education – face higher compliance complexity, rising customer expectations, and pressure to reduce costs every day. The organisations that thrive over the next decade will be those that are able to communicate empathetically through intelligent automation at scale.

I’ve worked with clients in superannuation, insurance, investments, banking, and public sector to deliver enterprise applications that embed automation into their day-to-day workflows. My background in UK, US and Australia spans leading agile teams to build enterprise applications, AI product strategy and leadership, and building amazing businesses that deliver outcomes our customers love.

If you’re working in communications, operations or transformation in a regulated organisation, I’d love to hear from you and discuss how ChandlerCX could help you solve your customer engagement challenges.