How Will Australians Retire in 2040? Insights from the ASFA Conference

#12 Neil and Sarah have just wrapped up at the ASFA conference, and they reconnect with industry leaders and discuss the latest trends shaping super, from digital innovation and regulatory challenges to the future of retirement.
This episode features expert insights from guests like Jane Couchman from Aware Super, Zein el Hassan from Mills Oakley, and Shaun Bransdon from TAL Australia, covering everything from the rapid rise of AI in compliance to the changing expectations of retirement for future generations.
00:34 Exciting exhibitors at ASFA Conference
03:01 Zen el Hassan, Partner at Mills Oakley, on AI in advice and super
06:03 Sarah's top picks of ASFA Conference sessions
10:00 Sarah's big idea: Separating accumulation funds from retirement funds
12:41 Retirement Funds: Accumulation vs. Drawdown
16:08 Shaun Bransdon, GM of Retirement and Wealth at TAL Australia, on retirement in 2040
16:40 "Future of Retirement in Australia"
18:14 Australia's aging population challenges
23:02 Jane Couchman, Chief Risk Officer and Group Executive, Sustainability at Aware Super, on balancing risk and compliance with innovation
26:12 Future of retirement the super system in 2050
28:08 Reflections on ASFA Con 2025 and looking forward to 2026
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